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Dog Attack Kills Mt. Pleasant Toddler

Update: Officials offer new details on fatal dog mauling.

 

UPDATE (5 p.m. Tuesday): Deputies have released photos of the dogs involved in the deadly Sunday attack. See the images here.

UPDATE (2:30 p.m. Tuesday): Authorities released 911 calls associated with the dog attack. The graphic tapes reveal the panic in the wake of the attack. Listen to the two recordings.

A second dog attack in a little more than a month has claimed the life of a Charleston County toddler, officials say.

The mother of 2-year-old Ja'Marr Tiller thought the boy was sleeping Sunday in an upstairs bedroom at a family home in unincorporated Mount Pleasant. But somehow around 8 p.m., the child ventured into the yard and was the victim of a fatal attack, according to law enforcement.

"This is an extremely tragic situation, and really ironic that we've had two similar incidents in the greater (Charleston) community in the last month or two," said Charleston County Sheriff Al Cannon.

The Sunday death follows an April 20 incident in which a newborn in Dorchester County was dismembered by a family dog as his father napped.

That case, in another police jurisdiction, was ruled a homicide and the father was charged with neglect.

There has been no official manner of death released in regard to Ja'Marr Tiller, but police are working under the assumption that the child was killed by an animal.

"We are seeking outside expertise to help us identify exactly where the wounds came from, to the extent that we can," Sheriff Cannon said at a Monday press conference. "There are a number of aspects that the coroner's office and the sheriff's office are working on."

Deputies responded at 8:30 p.m. Sunday to initial reports of a life-threatening dog attack, according to sheriff's spokesman Major Jim Brady. The child, critically injured, was transported to the Medical University of South Carolina where he was pronounced dead from the injuries, according to Coroner Rae Wooten.

Two dogs cared for by a relative — female and male lab-shepherd mixed breeds — were taken into custody by Animal Control.

"We do know the child died of injuries sustained, but there remains many unanswered questions about how this came to occur," Wooten said.

Experts will help determine if the dogs currently being held by animal control are indeed responsible, the sheriff said. Until then, nothing will happen to the animals.

"In any case you want to find the animal or the person that's responsible," Cannon said. "You've got to pursue that the same way you would a homicide. … We want to be certain that we've identified the dog, or dogs or animal or animals involved."

Coroner Wooten said the dogs currently in custody were not exactly family pets, but they were fed by Tiller's relatives. Cannon described them as "yard dogs." But the family's rural property was not fenced and any animal could have attacked the child.

The boy's mother, who left the child in a home with his aunt, uncle, grandmother and two cousins, returned after an hour or so to find the child stripped of his clothes and lying in the driveway with the two dogs over him, the relative said.

"At that point, we all went running out of the house and we saw his lifeless body laying on the ground," said Octavia Johnson, the boy's aunt. "The dog was still … over him at that time."

The child had multiple injuries all over his body, though Wooten wouldn't say exactly how many. Deputies are just at the start of their investigation, Cannon said. He wouldn't elaborate on the potential for criminal charges.

"It's too soon to say," Cannon said. "Obviously there is a lot of grief here, and this investigation is far from complete. It's too early to make any statements in that regard. We're looking at this and awaiting a lot of investigatory steps that need to be complete."

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Related Topics: Charleston County Sheriff, Dog attack, Ja'Marr Tiller, and Mount Pleasant Dog Attack

Jamie Healy

12:07 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

Wow - so sad... another child killed locally by a dog. That makes two in about a month's time. Perhaps what is admirable to this area though, is that the media finds it newsworthy to report such tragedy even when a certain breed is not involved (I am grateful to live in a place where bias isn't the first thing on everyone's mind in situations like these). This is a sad day for the family, the child, and for the dogs. My thoughts are with all involved, and I am very sorry for your tremendous loss.

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susan

8:11 am on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

I agree with your entire post! May the child RIP.

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Judith

9:52 am on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

It's so hard to read articles like this. May the child rest in peace and may the family heal. Any dog can be a danger, even a tiny chihuahua, yet one breed does get all the bad publicity. In fact, this is the first time I've seen an article about a dog attack that wasn't about a pit bull, although I know there are plenty of them. My neighbor's son, when he was 2 years old (he's now 15), lost a hand to a Afghan hound who grabbed hold of it and dragged him at full speed before a bystander managed to hit the dog over the head with a baseball bat. The hand could not be saved.

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Mckindley Williams

12:13 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

what we really should realize is that all dogs no matter the breed are animals... U should always error on the side of caution with them no matter how long they have been in the family... i always keep an eye on my dog when around my granddaughter and would not hesitate to put her down if she harmed her. My dog has been with me for 15 yrs and i love her but not over my own flesh and blood..

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BUMP

6:06 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

It looks like a PITBULL mix to me.

Mt. Pleasant citizen

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BUMP

6:07 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

It looks like a PITBULL mix to me.

Mt. Pleasant citizen

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BUMP

6:08 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

It looks like a PITBULL mix to me.

Mt. Pleasant citizen

The Learning Canine

3:40 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

Learn about Dog Safety - Dog Body Language - Preparing for a Life with Kids and Dogs - Supervision and much more. Parents need to educate themselves on how to prepare, supervise, plan and train for a life with dogs and kids. Not limited to families with Dogs and Kids, but Parents with Children and Parents with Dogs. Dog Safety Event at Frances Willis Shelter - June 9 - 10am to 2pm - 136 Four Paws Lane (off of Hwy 78) in Summerville. If we can learn and educate, we can save more lives.....Humans and Canines.

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Lin Smith

5:17 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

I could not agree with you more. Seems like it's always the dog's fault. "Let's just kill the dog!" When the problem could have been avoided. Thank you so much for your suggestions. Let's hope it gets people--especially parents--thinking before another dog has to pay the price for their stupidity.

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mel

6:09 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

I just don't understand how all these adults who were in the house could let something like this happen. Then, for the mother to drive up and see her child being mauled. What a tragedy!

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Nicky Hodnett

7:52 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

The article didn't state the dogs was mauling but standing over the child. With a wild open property and it being in the evening, I'm wondering if it could have been a coyote? If the dogs did it, then by all means they should be euthanized but another outside possibility should be investigated. I'm only saying this because I live on 20 acres and lately we have been inundated with coyotes. We lock all of our animals up at dusk including our large dogs. An attack of this sort would appear to be canine also.

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Shelly B

8:36 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

I agree TLC education and training, not the breed, but how to train and spot dog behaviors. You know we will be there and bring Clover.

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BUMP

11:41 am on Thursday, May 31, 2012

I wonder if it could have been an Elephant?

bob earl

3:50 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

most people say my dog is friendly, they can't believe it until it's to late,they are animals stop treating them like people.

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ardis

2:06 am on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

Dogs kill on average 19 to 31 people per year. Humans murder over 18,000 people a year. Drunk drivers kill over 10,000 people a year. Caregivers & adults kill thousands of children per year. Maybe people should stop treating people as "people"--i.e.,--A child is FAR safer with a dog--than a human animal.

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Erika

2:05 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

There are no aggressive dogs, just aggressive owners. It's all in how the animal is treated. People that aren't willing to raise a loving animal should not be allowed to own any. Michael Vick is a living, breathing example.

Susan Baker

4:01 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

As this article shows, any dog can become aggressive under the right circumstances, not just pitbulls as some people think. Never, ever leave a small child alone with any dog!

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ardis

2:14 am on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

By far, the dog breeds that kill most are Pit Bulls & Rotweillers--with Shepard mixes & Malamutes coming in a distant second. Unaltered or chained dogs are the most dangerous. Human deaths by dogs is extremely rare. In fact, more people are killed by bee stings & aspirin (20,000) than by dogs per year. By far, the greatest threat to children & adults are OTHER HUMANS.

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2Jon Boka

12:39 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

Many will hate me for this comment but I could never understand, truly, why anyone wants a dog...any dog. In many cultures this is not so and, in fact, dogs are eaten for human sustanance.

Jamie Healy

4:02 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

oh bob... your mindset is so typical. If people would treat their animals better and ensure that they are properly trained and that their needs are met, as opposed to chaining them up like lawn ornaments, dog attacks would be rare.

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Mary

4:22 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

Jamie, you are so right. In addition, I would like to know how anyone would not awaken when their child is screaming due to the attack. With so many dogs going bad, it is not the dog's fault, it is the family for not training their dogs. I cannot fathom leaving a child so that dogs would have access to a child; I would charge the parents with neglect at least. Why is it that you have to have a license to get married, but no license to have children--that is just insane.

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Rose DuCharme

12:26 am on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

Mary if you read the article the mother had left the child with relatives to care for while she ran errands so it is not she who should be charged with neglect but the aunt, uncle, cousin as they sat in the house while the 2 year old was unsupervised. Who lets a toddler be outside by themselves!!!

Kenoshaguy

4:16 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

Some people shouldn't have dogs or kids. My three siblings and myself always had German Shepherds since the day we were born. Surprise we are still all alive no one even got bit..

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Gail Smith

5:01 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

THANK YOU --I have had ,so far 3 German Shepherds that I have had the pleasure to share my life with. Never had a bite problem either-but she guards my grandchildren with her life-count on it!!!!

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Nan Hahn

7:53 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

Years ago I had a female collie-shephard. A friend brought her baby and playpen for a visit and set up on our screened porch (we were in the living room with the door open, just 8 feet away). I called my Queenie and told her to "guard the baby". She laid down in front of the playpen and, when my next door neighbor dropped by, she gave her "a look" that told my neighbor to keep her distance from the baby. My neighbor went W-A-Y around the porch and came in thru the front door. My Queenie was an incredible companion. I lost her to cancer in 1976, and I still miss her.

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susan

8:27 am on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

I rescued a pit mix and two female shep/lab mixes two years ago and the shep/labs are the most docile dogs one could ask for. They know when I don't feel well and stay by my side, like nurses almost, but I would never leave my grandchildren unattended with any of them. That is just something you do not do with any dog! One would think that my pit mix rules the house but he doesn't! The girls, as I call them, put him in his place early on and are also more aggressive when strangers come up to my fence.

tracy

4:21 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

I am praying for the family and also glad that it wasnt a pitbull see it can be any dog

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4:34 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

You are glad to see it wasn't a pit bull? Were you glad to see that another kind of dog is capable of a deadly attack? What a foolish comment! Any dog is capable of attack. People should not leave babies and small children alone with any dog.

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Jaime

11:36 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

^I know what you mean Tracy...she isnt meaning it like you think, it's just OLD hearing about Pitbull this and Pitbull that..Any dog can attack, not just pits

Patricia McClain

4:36 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

I am so sorry for the family of this little boy...I know this will be such a sad time for them. I pray that God will give them the strength to get through this tragic loss.

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Asha Horlbeck

4:40 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

I PERSONALLY KNOW THIS family and my heart is heavy and really goes out to this family but I must admit that i agree with Jamie that as dog owners we must treat and respect them and make sure that they have every neccassity that they need to thrive as animals...But we must also remember that these are K-9's with K-9 instincts and we as human beings have to make sure that we are visualent and watch for behavioral changes!!

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Adam Crisp

4:46 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

The story has been updated with new information from the sheriff and the county coroner. The dogs were not exactly pets, they say. Rather, they were animals that had simply shown up on the family's rural property and were fed by relatives.

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JOHN

4:46 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

YOU CAN SAY WANT YOU WANT ABOUT TRAING A DOG IF ITS IN ITS GENE'S TO KILL OR ATTACK YOUR THOUGHTFULNESS N SAFETY AINT GONNA MATTER TO SOME MOST YES ALL NO SOME ANIMALS JUST DONT LIKE SOME PEOPLE PERIOD JUST A SAD DEAL FOR ALL PRAYERS TO THE FAMILY

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Lin Smith

5:32 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

Hi, John Lots of breeds were originally trained to kill, back in the day. Like the little weiner dog--which we just can't imagine today, can we? How about Dorothy's dog in "The Wizard of Oz"?. Now they're family pets. Yes, that gene is still in them and that's why ALL dogs still need to be trained. Anyone who thinks it can pick-up a dog from a shelter, bring it home, feed it, and love it, and that's enoung investing in it for a family is heading for disaster. A dog might be a "domestic" animal, but it needs exercise, dicipline, boundries, and love. Somehow, we think that love is enough. IT'S NOT! You are doing the dog a great disservice as well as your family if you do not begin to train EVERYONE on day one. The entire family MUST be trained and MUST be consistant. Do not feel sorry for the dog no matter what the history. His new world start today with all of you! Make it a sucessful story, invest in the best trainer you can get especially if one can come to your home. Your dog will be will you for 15+ years. Isn't she or he worth having a teacher to begin with? Good luck

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tracy

9:03 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

There is no such thing as kill in its genes, most animals attacked when hurt or aggravated or trained to do it.A dog could even snap if its in pain or someone is around its food or it has a protective manner over its family at any rate all large dogs should be kept away from non family members and small children.We have a chihuhua if he was as big as a pit he would be a killer ...We also have small toddlers whom we keep away from him even though he is as big as a large rat.

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Michael Smith

9:25 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

AS I recall, it's IN THE GENES OF HUMANS to KILL (other humans and animals). So there, tit for tat!

Scott Hall

4:54 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

Anyone who leaves a small child alone and unsupervised near ANY animal, be it dog or cat or rat, is ultimately responsible for what happens. 99.9 percent of the time nothing Bad will happen, but theres always that .1%. Folks, please err on the side of safety! For the children AND the animals.

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debbie bell

4:58 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

In another article, they mention the dogs' colors: one black and one BRINDLE. Neither labs or german shepherd's come in the color "brindle", but PIT BULLS do.

Pits were created to not avoid a fight, to not threaten or try to drive the victim away, to simply stand there and then WHAM, begin tugging and crushing the opponent. The best pit dogs fought silently, because they are not giving warning first with growling, or barking to drive the victim/opponent away.

Many/most pits are not spayed/neutered because their owners do not care about pit welfare. Therefore, daily more and more pits and pit mixes are being produced. Some will look like pits, some will look more like other breeds. There is no way to know when the pit bull instinct to tug-till-it-dies instinct will rise to the surface and control the dog's behavior.

Don't ban the pit bulls but do ban their breeding. Everyone sane and compassionate wins when pit bulls gradually become extinct. All dogs, especially the pits themseves, win too.

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Shelly B

5:12 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

Bet you feel salty now referring to the pit bull when in fact that wasnt even the breed. Lets concentrate on the fact a family has lost a child and stop slamming a dog breed. Any animal can kill or injure....period.

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Nicole

5:50 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

I would like to address a few things in your comment, Debbie:
I would like to address what you said about why many pit bulls aren't spayed/neutered. There are many MANY dogs who do not get spayed/neutered. Spaying/neutering is not a breed-specific issue! Yes, there are many pit bulls who are not spayed/neutered but I sincerely doubt that it is because their owners do not care about them (and this particularly insults me because I do own a pit bull, he is neutered, and he is the most loving dog I have ever had). I am a volunteer at East Valley Animal Shelter, one of the busiest animal shelters in the United States, and in my experience, the reason why most animals come into the shelter unaltered is not because the owners do not care, but rather because it is expensive. Also, there are many stray pit bulls. Stray animals are often unaltered simply because no one is taking care of them! I do agree with you that pit bulls should not be banned; however, I disagree with you in that I believe their breeding should be controlled. There should only be a certain amount of breeders for pit bulls. At this time, there are a greater amount of pit bulls than there are people who want pit bulls. Additionally, I find your beliefs on exterminating the breed as a whole extremely disgusting and inhumane.

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Nicole

5:51 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

Also, there are many breeds that are brindle. Is it possible that a brindle dog has pit bull genes in it? Yes. But it could also potentially be any of these breeds:
Boxers
Great Danes
Mastiffs
Bull Mastiffs
Chihuahuas
Boston Terriers
Bull Terriers
English Bull Dogs
American bulldogs
French Bulldogs
Presa Canarios
Gray Hounds
Akitas
Plott hounds
Basenjis
Cardigan Welsh Corgis
Dutch Shepherds
Shelties
Pugs
Staffordshire Bull Terriers
Scottish Terriers
Dachshund
Anatolian Shepherd Dog
Rat Terriers
Cane corsos
Fila brasileiros
Tosa
Whippet

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Cindy

6:08 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

You are nuts!!!!! That is the most acinine statement I have ever heard of -"Don't ban the pit bulls but do ban their breeding. Everyone sane and compassionate wins when pit bulls gradually become extinct. All dogs, especially the pits themseves, win too." Do you realize how dangerous dogs are in general if you do not care for them properly? I have 2 husky's (strays) and even as much as I work with them, they are still snippy. Do I think they would kill anyone, no, but you can never be too careful. They are food aggressive and a small child gets in the way, who knows. You have to be careful. In no way it is a dogs fault that this happens. Unfortunately a pit is one of overall stongest breeds and when they bite, their jaws will lock. Therefore causing typically a more critical injury to the person or animal they are attacking. so you think that not breeding them they will become extinct and there will be no more dog attacks? WRONG!!!! Maybe we should stop breeding people like you and there will be no more ignorant people in the world?

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Nicole

6:15 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

Finally, to address your extremely erroneous summarization of the origins of the pit bull. It is true that some pit bulls have been bred to fight. However, you do not make the important distinction of who the dogs were meant to fight. In the past, pit bulls have been used as entertainment in arenas to fight bears, bulls, and other larger creatures. It is only somewhat modern times(around the early 1800s), that the pit bull has been used to fight other pit bulls. No where in what I have read or seen has the pit bull been bred specifically to attack a person. Dogs with human aggression were not favored in dog fighting because they would turn on their owners- and if you've ever seen a dog fight, the person is in the arena with the dog, cheering the dog on as he rips the other dog to shreds. You wrote that the best pit bulls fought silently because they did not give an indication to the other dog that it would attack. I have met many MANY pit bulls in my volunteering at the animal shelter. I have volunteered there for a year now. I have only met around two pit bulls who were severely human aggressive. These dogs were put to sleep. I have met many more pit bulls who were dog aggressive. Each dog aggressive dog has it's own specific issues- some dogs don't like small dogs, larger dogs, females, males etc. Of the dogs that I have met who are severely dog aggressive, they do not care what "warnings" the other dog gives. This is the same with dog fighting dogs.

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Amy DeAngelo

7:32 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

Excuse me but I have 4 children. 16,10,9,and 4. I always had a pittbull. My Ceaser(pittbull) passed away at the age of 14 2 years ago. NEVER bit or growled at any of my children, their friends, or strangers. ALL my children used to sit on Ceacer and he would run and play my children loved him. He even got out once in a while and our neighbor's had cookies for him. Its not the breed! Its how you RAISE them. Shame on you.

By the way Brindle is also the Boxer Breed

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Jamie Healy

8:01 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

Debbie, I'm just going to assume you're as crazy as you sound and not even address the level of ignorance you've spewed.

Cindy, while I realize you were somewhat trying to help, it doesn't help to spread untruths - locking jaws are a myth and nothing more. In fact, the bite pressure was tested on a lab, shep, and pit, and the pit had the least of the three. Let's just understand that any dog can do damage, and don't allow misinformation to allow us a false sense of safety in regards to any breed of dog. Any dog has the propensity to bite and do serious damage. A chi has mauled a child in the past. We must be the wise ones. Train and care for our pets... train our children how to interact with animals and vice versa... never leave children alone with animals... never burden an animal with the expectation of thinking it should respond like a human... be educated on the issues of dog bites, warning signs (because there always is one), and what we can do to make this world safer for everyone - pets, children and adults alike.

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Cheryl

8:40 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

Why is it every time there is an article on a dog attack someone has to bring up the pit bull...stick to the article and the dogs found at the scene!

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Sonrie

8:45 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

It is really great to see that some people actually speak from truth, wisdom and experience. While most seem to speak from ignorance and failure to ever experience the truth. Pitbulls, and bully breeds in general are some of the most misunderstood canines. They were originally breed as "Nanny Dogs", they do not have any more aggression than any other breed of dog. All dogs have their repressed instincts that must be properly trained, maintained and watched at all times.

Please do the world a favor and educated yourself before you open your mouth and decide to spread more lies and wrong fated ideas that good people have to work 10x harder to undo for the wonderful "bully breeds". "Pitbulls" are wonderful dogs. They are extremely sweet, loving and compassionate dogs and deserve a much better understanding. Actually learn about things before you speak. Thanks

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Cindy

9:01 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

Jamie - I am not sure where you received your information about pits and not the locking of the jaw. This is not a myth, however, very true. I own a pit myself as well as many other animals. I have all rescues and my vet is world renowned. This vet informed me of this information. Now, generally I am sure their are animals with similiar strength in the jaw and most dogs, when attacking viciously, do lock their jaw. However, the point I was trying to make is that any dog is just as dangerous as the next, put in the right, or wrong, situation. I don't think that I am the person you need to be using your words on. Please let's focus on the ignorant individuals that would like to ban the breed or breeding. Not the people that are educated concerning the breed and animals in general.

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tracy

9:05 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

Well it all boils down to this everyone needs a law to keep large dogs contained at all times.

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guy

10:23 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

to settle this disagreement on pitbulls and locking jaws, please read the following....
Question: Do Pit Bulls have locking jaws?

Answer: Prepared by:
Al W. Stinson, D.V.M.
Director of Legislative Affairs, Michigan Association for Pure Bred Dogs, and the Michigan Hunting Dog Federation, and a Member of the Board of Directors of the American Dog Owners Association

The following quote was sent to me from Dr. Howard Evans, Professor Emeritus, College of Veterinary Medicine at Cornell University, Ithaca New York. We were colleagues in the veterinary college for four years. He is the author of the textbook, ANATOMY OF THE DOG, (the world's definitive work on the anatomy of the dog). His statement was in a letter addressed to me on March 26. 2002. His quote was: "I have spoken with [Dr.] Sandy deLahunta (the foremost dog neurologist in the country) and [DR.] Katherine Houpt (a leading dog behaviorist) about a jaw locking mechanism in pit bulls or any other dog and they both say, as do I, that there is NO SUCH THING AS "JAW LOCKING" IN ANY BREED.

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Jaime

11:33 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

Haha..Debbies comment is funny..Brindle=Pitbull yeah, ok lady...

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Jamie Healy

8:04 am on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

Cindy, I'll say it again, you ARE wrong. And if your so called vet told you that, HE is wrong. Do a little research and you'll find the same. My information comes from scientists, researchers, and respected veterinarians. I spent years as a national pit bull advocate for an animal welfare organization. I kind of know what I'm talking about. And I have a pit, too. Having one doesn't mean you know it all.

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susan

8:42 am on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

Cindy, your are so wrong. There is no such thing as a locking jaw on a pit bull! They just have so much muscle mass in that area that many people believe this to be true! Look it up, you obviously have internet access!

Debbie, pits were brought over as family/nanny dogs. Its the idiots that take advantage of this strong breed that lead it to fight.

Both of you ladies need to educate yourselves a little better.

blr

4:59 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

Years ago our sweet sheepdog clamped down to seriously bite my dad when he surprised her from behind.
Dogs do everything for a reason, unlike people.
So don't treat them like short fuzzy people, respect the dog in dogs.

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varrt

5:03 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

Oh come on the kid was sleeping upstairs and ta da not one adult noticed a 2 yr old getting out of his bed coming down stairs and then going outside in the back yard.Yeah ok

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Gail Smith

5:11 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

My thoughts exactly-all these adults and no one noticed a 2 year old child going outside. Were the doors unlocked and wide open? Does no one pay attention to children anymore? That poor mother came home to adults she can't trust-and lost her child because of it. Thoughts and prayers to her and the emptiness she must feel in her heart...so sad.

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Rothay

7:46 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

It is incredible, not reasonable, to think that a 2 year old climbed out of bed and wento downstairs and outside, had to open the door - and all those people did not notice the child. Then what about the child's reaction when bitten, mauled? Two year olds have strong lungs and when they cry, they cry! There is something very strange about this story. It is tragic, but it doesn't make sense. Reading between the lines, I think the sheriff's people think it doesn't add up also.

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Rothay

7:47 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

It is incredible, not reasonable, to think that a 2 year old climbed out of bed and wento downstairs and outside, had to open the door - and all those people did not notice the child. Then what about the child's reaction when bitten, mauled? Two year olds have strong lungs and when they cry, they cry! There is something very strange about this story. It is tragic, but it doesn't make sense. Reading between the lines, I think the sheriff's people think it doesn't add up also.

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Sandy Jones

9:58 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

That's right. All those people in the house are responsible! Poor baby! I would have protetcted and cared for you.

Richard

5:09 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

I have had Dogs since I was a Little Boy. I have never had one attack or hurt me or anyone. To me they have been like sons and daughters, and have been treated as such. The love they give is pure, I do understand there are dogs that have been dumped and abused , they react as one would expect, For them there is no trust, no love only survival. My hearts go out to the Family, but too many times I have seen what happens with an abused pet, or one that had lived with hate instead of love. I am not close minded and I wait to read all the evidence, before I I render an opinion.

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Lin Smith

5:10 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

Lin
Training a dog or dogs to accept a new pact leader (the baby) begins while the baby is still in the hospital. The smell of a wet diaper should be introduced first. The dogs should never be allowed into the baby's room for the first year, all adults in the home must enforce an invisible ring around the infant. The dogs may stay in the hallway so they can see what's going on, but may never enter. When walking the baby in a stroller, the dogs always walk behind it. The dogs may only have positive attention when the baby is present. If more people bothered to take a few classes on how to introduce a new baby into the family (pack) this would never happen. I'm heartbroken for all concerned. Dogs are dogs. They are not our "babies". Please learn to train them from the very beginning. God bless this family for its mistakes.

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Bettijean

5:12 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

I agreen with you Jamie. If an animal is raised in a caring and loving environment and yes trained properly attacts are indeed rare. When you welcome an animal in to your home they are welcomed into the family. A member of the family that also requires your love and attention for their overall well being.

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Charles Speed

5:20 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

Bob is right. You do not treat dogs like people. As for Jamie and Mary, the training part makes sense. However, if the dogs that killed the child were outside on a long line this would not have happened. I work with a German Shepherd Rescue and take the so-called problem dogs. They are fine with me and my other shepherds; however, I would never let any of my dogs run loose. That is irresponsible and an accident waiting to happen

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dava cana

6:15 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

I've had dogs all my life and we never trained any of them. What has happened to them now that requires training to be safe around people? My son at 10 was given what we were told was a brindle lab but it killed the neighbor's cat before it turned a year old. I always thought it's head was weird for a lab. I forgot about that til now.
So horribly tragic for this child's family.

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Ang Romney

6:18 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

Nothing good ever comes out of North Carolina

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mel

6:20 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

Unfortunately, these were not family dogs. They were "yard dogs", and you know how that goes. It's a tragic situation all the way around!

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dava cana

6:27 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

Maybe we weren't as aware ofdog attacks when I was a child

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Janet Hinkley

6:32 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

Pit bull's jaws do NOT lock. That is a myth. They have a strong bite (but not as strong as a German shepherd) but its jaw is no different from any other dog!

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Amy DeAngelo

8:41 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

I had a pittbull almost 1/2 my life and I also have 4 Children. My Ceaser was my fifth child. lol I had him for 14 years before he passed. My children are 16,10,9 and 4. I agree with you because I was raised with German Shepards. They can both be extremely protective! but loving! I was bit by a poodle. Don't like them "ankle biters" ANY dog can do severe damge.

KAY

6:56 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

This child had to scream where were the caretakers??why was he undressed?? It's all strange.

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Ken

7:34 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

I've said it before and I'll say it again, kids around big dogs is a disaster waiting to happen. People should realize that a big dog is a carnivorous predator and, it doesn't matter how well the animal is trained it will still see a small child as prey.

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Amy DeAngelo

9:21 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

Not True!! I can show you pictures of ALL my children from the day they are born with my pitt. He passed 2 years ago at the age of 14. And my dog was taking care of kittens 4 weeks old when Ceaser was 12 years old and the one kitten was kicking HIS @ss! lol. My kids are 16,10,9, and 4. PLUS an average of ALL my childrens friends. They all grabbed food from his mouth or a toy. Our Ceaser sat, stayed, paw, rolled over, high fived, and crawled. It's how they are TREATED and TRAINED !! For Pete sake a Poodle will f@c# you up if they are neglated,starved, and beaten. I TRUELLY feel my heart breaking for the family suffering of this poor baby. I have four children like I said and I know where they are at all times. Thats where they have to look. 2 years old and wakling out the front door at 8.

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Sara Bloom

10:06 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

Sorry, I have to agree with Ken. I had a wonderful gentle dog that attacked my two year old son. I was watching out the window so I ran out and saved the kid before the dog did damage. My son was walking around ignoring the dog, the dog jumped at him from behind and had him down in seconds. Animals are opportunists. I heard that years ago when watching a live animal show. The trainer said to keep all children away from the arena's edge when the animals were out because they know the difference between a child and an adult, children move differently. Even when a taller child is placed with a little person, the animal knows to go after the weaker not the smaller prey. Therefore I don't care how well trained your dog is, never leave it alone with a little kid, period. If you are going to take a nap or be otherwise indisposed, put the dog out and lock the door with the kid inside. I just don't get how people can look at those teeth and think nothing will ever happen.

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Jaime

11:29 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

we love our pits too :)

JoeBikerChef

7:41 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

Terrible story, my heart goes out to these poor kids...Just one comment though...Why is it when a Pit (mix or purebred) or a Rottie attacks anyone, they always tell us what kind of dog it was in the headline?

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Tina

7:51 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

I have 2 of the sweetest dogs in the world, one is a full blood Golden Retriever and the other is a Beagle mix. When someone asks if my dogs bite my response has always been, "Well I've never known them to bite, but they do have teeth!" No matter how well you think you know your dog, there is always that chance that they may attack.

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Tina

8:00 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

Ang Romney, I believe this took place in Mt. Pleasant, SC. Also, I'm from North Carolina and I am FABULOUS!!!

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Jane Doe

8:18 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

Maybe something else happen and the dogs smelled blood and went to investigate or maybe the dogs dragged him back. js

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Joe

8:26 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

I wonder what causes this...is the dog jealous?...territorial?...or does it simply go from being a tame house pet to a ferocious wild animal when something triggers them?

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Rothay

8:32 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

Regardfing the children attacked, fatally, and the dogs involve, I have noticed that the news reports seldom mention what the child was doing with the dog. But there was one recently. The toddler was crawling on the floor and had clutched the dog's fur to hold on and stand up. I can well imagine the scenario. Toddlers are not gentle with anything. It does not matter what the breed is. Many dogs have not been trained to be "user friendly," for want of better words, around children.

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Carol

8:59 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

Very tragic. In many areas the laws about dogs running free are very lax. My sister lives in NC and I'm amazed at the amount of dogs that run free. Actually, so do the kids. Sounds very typical of some areas unfortunately. All those people at home and no one hears anything..A $5 child proof lock on the doors would have prevented that.

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Lisa

9:03 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

WOW "wasn't the dogs fault" - Let one kill your kid and she if you change your tune. Dogs have killed grown men in the street. Law enforcement should be more vigilant with leash laws and start jailing people that let these killers run loose in neighborhoods. I have a Shit Zu that is sweet but went crazy and got very agressive when a newborn was in the home. Most dogs can be killers and should be contained in a yard or within their owners possession at all times.

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susan

8:48 am on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

Exactly Lisa, it does not matter the size or breed of the dog. Even lil ones can be aggressive!

tracy

9:06 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

I agree with nicole it could have been any kind of dog and I am still praying for the family and in the last four months have heard about numerous dog attacks and killing people and not all of them were pits they were just big dogs.

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anna johnson

9:22 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

if pit bulls are so great, why is it that almost all dog attacks that end in death or life threatening injuries, are almost always from a pit bull attack or a mix with pit in it? get real, it is in the news constantly that pits not only go after children but many times after their owners. also, when they attack, it is usually much more than a bite! another thing i'd like to know from all of you that say they don't lock their jaws. why is it we always see only the pit bull hanging from a knotted rope in a tree? i've never seen any other breed be able to do that! somethings going on in the strength of those jaws. i've only seen very ignorant people that even want to own the pit bulls. a smarter person and a confident person does not need to prove himself with a mean, vicious dog.

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Karie Fenske

4:51 am on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

WOW!!!! Your last statement is seriously disturbing! So - you are saying that only uneducated, ignorant people buy pitbulls? I am amazed then that you do not own one. I will not even give you the satisfaction of answering half of your ignorant statements but I will say this.....I am a Nurse Anesthetist for a major Univeristy hospital - I love pitbulls and currently am on my 2nd one as my first passed away. So I guess I am not sure what your definition of "uneducated" is since not only did I obtain my Masters degree - I also keep people alive for a living. I think you need to get educated and start using your brain before making more stupid statements! Oh - and confidence isn't exactly something I am lacking in!

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susan

8:58 am on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

Talk about ignorance. Read up on the breed, but you need to be able to comprehend what you read. My husband and I are both well-educated and confident people. We both hold down high paying jobs. We also own a pit mix and two shep/lab mixes. My sons, both college graduates, own pits, well American Stafs. The pit has a very large muscle mass in the head/neck area and that is why people think the jaw is so powerful that it can lock, but it cannot. As far as hanging from a knotted rope, My pit loves doing that! Educate yourself before putting up comments like you do.

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mojo

4:06 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

just one thing to say,anna! Ive got 3 male dogs. 7yr. old lab, 12 yeat old pit and a lab 4months. They live together in harmony for one reason only. they have been trained to not be dog aggressive or people aggressive. they are socialized at least 2 times a week at the local no fence dog park. I don't think anyone posting made the statement that pits were great, just that the pits have been unfairly labeled as dangerous breeds. Remember any dog can be dangerous if not loved and cared for and trained as the breed determines. different breeds require specialized training. If you knew knew that this discussion would not be happening. just saying@ .

Ang Romney

9:30 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

Nothing good ever comes out of South Carolina. Never. poor, uneducated and backward. They still use Confederate money.

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Michael Smith

9:30 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

People are going on and on about dogs in these comments, but it is THE PEOPLE involved that let this happen, it is THE PEOPLE involved that let this happen. THE PEOPLE. THE PEOPLE.

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Rothay

9:35 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

I can understand the dog lovers' frustration with the bad mouthing of the pit bull. My son had a female pitbull when his children were young, and she was the sweetest, most protective "baby sitter" you could ever want. It's curious how you geta fixation about a breed. I was guilty of that when I lived in New York. When I walked my German Shepherd, I prayed I wouldn't meet a Doberman coming the other way. Yet now my neighbor stops by with his 3 Dobermans and I love their personalities. In New York, I took my German Shepherd to the vet who insisted on practically hog tying him. It turns out he didn't rust any dog, he showed me his right hand minus a thumb, bitten off by a panicking Dachsund puppy. Then there's the man on the same floor in my apartment there, who had a heavily bandaged knee, rode around in a wheelchair for a while - bitten by a Chihuahua. I have a Border Collie, sh's a sweetheart, but I treat her with respect and don't allow children to run up to her. All dogs have a set of teeth. Some with more teeth that are teeth than others, lol!

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Michael Smith

9:41 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

Ang Romeny said South Carolinans still use "confederate money". Well guess what, the whole COUNTRY still uses fraud, phony FEDERAL RESERVE debt money. So there, tit for tat!

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Rothay

10:00 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

The main fact in this tragic story for me is that the little boy was outside all by himself at that time, nobody watching him, mother elsewhere for a while. Add to that two comparatively strange dogs that were being fed by the family. In other words, no one interacted with them, obviously, so they were loners, and two together, a team. Who knows if the child spotted the dogs and was curious, or vice versa? It is my opinion that all dogs retain their instincts inherited from their ancestor, the wolf. In the wolf's world there is a hierarchy. No other wolf gets familiar with the alpha in a pack. They have a pecking order. So, a toddler approaching two strange dogs, attempting to touch them? A recipe for disaster. Someone in that house needs to explain why this little boy was out there and nobody knew it. Why did nobody hear his cries? A lot of blame to go around for lack of responsibility.

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Sandy Jones

10:02 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

So disturbing. I can't believe these people let this happen to a baby. Nobody heard a thing?????? ARREST them ALL!

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Barb Hinchman

10:10 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

Tragic...and nothing can be said that will bring this child back. However...yard not fenced in...all those people watching this baby and he manages to get out of the house? I have had many many dogs in my lifetime and I can say that I have never heard of dogs stripping clothes off their victims, they would shake them around a bit, but not strip them. Sounds like a coyote got him and the dogs showed up at the wrong time. Labs are docile, but German Shepards ...yeah now they are scary. All those people at the house....makes me wonder.

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Brenda

10:37 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

All German Shepards I have know are sweet, and some where way to protective. Could not leave the yard with that dog watching. He would stop you, but never hurt anyone. The problem is people leaving there dogs becasue of tough times. Some go back to being a wild patch unafraid of people due to being hungry. A small child has died. The adults watching him need to be questioned!!! There story does not make sense? My heart is with the mother that found her child like this.

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Seth Rosenthal

10:42 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

No bad dogs, just bad dog owners.

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Jaime

11:23 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

Some people just shouldnt own dogs...and some people shouldnt have kids...RIP to the lil boy :( *glad for once it wasnt a pit gettn the bad rap

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Jaime

11:24 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012

soooooo....are they going to ban Lab-Shepard mixes now...?

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Lady Godiva

12:03 am on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

There is way too much talk about the dog or dogs in general in this thread. A toddler died a horrible death. Let our thoughts and prayers be for the child and his family.

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stanley seigler

1:46 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

@Lady Godiva: " ...way too much talk about the dog or dogs in general in this thread. A toddler died a horrible death. Let our thoughts and prayers be for the child and his family."

AGREE. way too much. kill the dog; jail the parents; pray action (by society, we the people) is taken to insure this unforgivable, horrible, act never occurs again...but;

sadly it will and will just be another news story as soon as people tell all their dog stories...we are a sick society.

Greymom

12:20 am on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

Yard Dogs ??? WTF... What they are is Dogs that are neglected and most likely abused by stupid and uncaring people. A dog or any animal left in a yard to live alone without a loving hand will revert to a wild state. It doesn't know how to behave, and will become unsocial just like some kids. I hope they don't punish the wrong dogs for the stupidity of their owners if they have any. Peace to the little boy.

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ardis

1:53 am on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

Most of these incidents are the result of parental neglect. Most dogs won't kill, but to be on the safe side a dog should never have unfettered access to a todler. By far, the dog breeds that kill people most are Pit Bulls, Rottweillers--with Malamutes & shepard mixes coming in a distant second. The most dangerous are unaltered & chained dogs of either sex. However, death by dogs need to be put in perspective. Dogs kill on average 19 to 31 people per year. Bees kill approx. 53 people a year. Aspirin kills 20,000 people a year. Baby cribs kill approx. 45 babies a year. Drunk drivers kill over 10,000 thousand people per year. Care givers & adults are the GREATEST threat to babies & todlers--killing thousands per year. Bottom line: A child is far less likely to be killed by a dog--than by a human.

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John Menuis

6:43 am on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

My Pekingese never killed anyone. It isn't because at times he wouldn't want to but because he is so damn small.

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Lady Godiva

9:26 am on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

There are plenty of "yard dogs" roaming freely through disadvantaged neighborhoods. People should be advised to call Charleston Country sheriff's office to have animal control come get them. In the meanwhile, it's advisable that people install fences to protect themselves and their children where potentially dangerous animals roam. People who feed feral dogs are enabling a potentially dangerous force. Feral dogs also should not be adopted into homes with young children. The that the dog who killed the baby about a month ago was a rescue dog yet we didn't hear anything about who authorized that adoption to happen and what the circumstances were.

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Greymom

9:42 am on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

I just don't think being " disadvantaged " has any thing to do with it. There are plenty of people who are barely making it and still manage to keep their pets inside and care for them. There is no excuse for it. If you can't properly care for them you shouldn't have them. Its just that simple. But as always others have to pick up the slack of those who are getting these animals and expect every one else to take care of them. There should be a law . If you can't provide a safe and loving environment for them you can't have them. Then the rest of the world would be safe from them..
Peace to the Baby...

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robin carnivale

9:46 am on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

i agree Nicky Hodnett..............could have very well been a coyote instead of the dogs. and maybe they were standing over the child trying to protect it. i wonder if the dogs were covered with blood? i wonder if any blood was trailed off into the woods? the dogs may have run the coyote off. Either way..in the end...the HUMANS are at fault.

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Greymom

9:47 am on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

And also I just want to say about the other Baby... A tiny baby left wiggling and and making noises in a swing unattended, to a Dog And even a Cat, looks like a squeek toy. I doubt the Dog ( if it was the Dog ) woke up that Day and decided to kill a member of its family. We need to put the blame where it belongs, in the lap of the person that was supposed to be watching the baby.

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missnoee

9:59 am on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

WoW ! They must have really had the volume up High on the tv, or....the dogs were unusually quiet, as well as this poor child. This is all so sad and senseless.

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Lauren Costa

10:45 am on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

If I was mauled by an animal in my yard, my dog would certainly come running to protect/comfort me and would definitely be found by my side when police arrived. When dealing with a yard with no enclosure, I really hope authorities are serious about making sure those dogs are the ones that committed the attack and not another animal that ran off!

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Marty

10:50 am on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

All dogs should be lawfully mandated to wear a muzzle. All dogs are animals, humans think that dogs are people, they are not. Most people try to talk to their dogs like they truly understand them but what you see is the dog doing what it wants and a frustrated owner. People should have to have classes on dog ownership, Pet Owners have a great responsibility for the safety and well being of the animal and an even greater responsibility to the Humans around their pet. You would not walk down the street with a lion! Some of these dogs are are just as powerful and dangerous. Pet owners always come up with an excuse for these dog attacks and it usually blames the human not the dog. When a human goes on a killing rampage I do not hear people forgiving and explaining that it was not the human's fault so why is it done for Dogs. People need to wake up,dangerous types of animals should not be around people without that danger being removed. Safe secure Muzzle that cannot be worked off by the dog. Maybe when people admit there is a problem with dogs then maybe we can save lives and stop people from further horrifying encounters with dogs.

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KC

5:22 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

Marty, there are 78 million dogs in the U.S. These tragedies are extremely rare. Dogs have been mans best friend for 1,000s of years and are as American as apple pie. There is a movement to stop dog ownership through sensationaling rare incidences.

heidi

11:31 am on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

Why was this child out of the house where is the supervision, the parents are irresponsible and should be charged with child endanderment in the death of this child.If they have any other children remove them immediately.

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Up North reader

11:37 am on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

How on earth did a story about the tragic death of a child evolve into a debate about the jaw-locking capabilities of various dog breeds? Please remember that the story is about a young life that ended suddenly and the loss that a grieving family is facing. If you wish to condemn or defend a specific breed, log on to one of the many sites that address a specific breed's issues.

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Brenda

11:51 am on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

As i read this i got the feeling they are not sure it was done by the dogs....I wonder. RIP Sweet baby.

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Brenda

11:58 am on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

It was a lab shepard mix not a pit!

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Dottie Collins

12:28 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

Just wondering...if the child was left with that many people...how in the world did someone not hear the child screaming which it must have done as it was being killed??? That is crazy. A child cannot get mauled to death by an animal without there being a lot of crying and screaming....where were the people who were supposed to be watching the child?

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Di

2:00 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

My question is this: Why does it matter what type of dog attacked this little boy? It won't change the fact that this child was left unattended by family members in the household. In my opinion, the family is responsible for this horrific act, not the animal.

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Adam Crisp

2:35 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

UPDATE: Authorities have released 911 calls associated with the dog attack. The graphic recordings reveal the panic in the wake of the attack. Listen to the two recordings here: http://patch.com/A-tCLs

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Janelle Kuhns

3:48 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

Simple DON"T leave a child with any type of animal! Geez! People wake the hell up!

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John Oneil

4:24 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

Only thing good about these dog attacks is no more child support payments !

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Brenda

10:12 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

And you John are as ass! How can you say such a horrible thing ! I pray to god you dont have children!!

KC

4:54 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

This is horribly sad. These tragedies are extremely rare (usually involves an unattended child) among the 78 million dogs in the U.S. proving that dogs are mans best friend. I imagine because of the rarity it leaves a bigger impression on us than all the kids that die tragically in more usual ways such as drowning or run over, also unattended children

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Adam Crisp

5:29 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

UPDATE (5 p.m. Tuesday): Deputies have released photos of the dogs involved in the deadly Sunday attack. See the images here: http://ow.ly/bef93

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Greymom

6:58 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012

We are all animals.... Just different species. The difference is that the Dogs are put to death and the humans get a slap on the wrist !! Go Figure !!

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Jewel

12:34 am on Wednesday, May 30, 2012

That dog is CLEARLY a pit mix! Pit bulls kill, therefore there is a dead child now. May God keep his poor little soul and may he rest in peace. Poor baby, what a brutal way to have to die. Pit bulls and their mixes will continue to kill maul and maim, and the media and owners will continue to try to hide it, by calling the dog a "lab mix." That is also what the shelters call pit bulls when they're having trouble getting one adopted out; suddenly it becomes a "lab mix." sick!

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Jamie Healy

7:59 am on Wednesday, May 30, 2012

Jewel, you must have super powers to be able to identify the breed of dog simply by a picture! In a national study performed on animal professionals within the industry, breed identification was mistaken (wrong) 87.5% of the time. Therefore, we're way more likely to be wrong in assuming the breed of a dog than we are to be right.

That said, if you can look at that picture and think it's a pit bull, you're clearly blind. http://mountpleasant-sc.patch.com/articles/photos-dogs-involved-in-fatal-attack#photo-10108772 "Clearly a pit mix!"... jeez, you're really reaching on that with your irrational fear and ignorance. You're the only sick one in this conversation.

And again, to go back to the original story. This isn't about breed. Dog bites have NEVER been about breed. It's tragic, simply put. There were likely some errors made in judgment, but it doesn't make it any less tragic or painful for the family. A child has died, and subsequently, so will an animal that was expected to behave in a way WE think is right. No one will ever be able to say for sure what triggered this, but no doubt something did. Dogs, no matter what breed, do not attack without warning.

Don't turn it into a pit bull argument with your narrow-minded, simple, false accusations.

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JackLeg

12:19 pm on Thursday, May 31, 2012

Regardless of my opinion on breed (which does include a very rational fear of Pittbulls around myself and my child), many of these tragedys could be avoided by eliminating the overpopulation of our pets. It would be very difficult to enforce in our area but other states have a registration process for every animal and fees to go along with each pet. I am not a supporter of many extra fees (as I own four pets) but if it would help people to act more responsibly, I would be more than happy to pay a small fee and register my pet each year. Something has to be done to control the local animal population, as both of the recent child deaths were from dogs that no one actually claimed as their "pets".

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KC

12:43 pm on Thursday, May 31, 2012

Pet overpopulation today is a myth. There was a problem 20 years ago but because of educating the public there is actually a pet shortage in some areas. This misinformation is used by animal rights to promote stricter rules on all pet owners because they prefer no one own a pet and hope no more pets are bred.

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Jamie Healy

1:10 pm on Thursday, May 31, 2012

How naive KC. There are over 5 million animals put to death in shelters across the United States every single year. I believe last year's # was up around 9 million. If you think there's a shortage, check out your local shelter, or better yet, their freezers. There are far too many people back yard breeding and overpopulating the shelters with unwanted animals.

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JackLeg

1:37 pm on Thursday, May 31, 2012

Maybe in some areas but certainly not ours, or any in SC that I am aware of. I have honestly never heard anyone or any statistics that state dog overpopulation is not a problem. Maybe there are some certain breeds that are difficult to come by but that is certainly not what I was referencing. The dogs responsible in these killings are medium to large size mixed breeds- with no declared owner. If you're interested in the truth about our area take a visit to any shelter and ask the workers. It is heartbreaking how many animals are put down on a weekly basis. What's even more upsetting is that many places in the state are 10 times worse than the Lowcountry. My humble opinion is that something needs to be done at the state level.

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KC

2:21 pm on Thursday, May 31, 2012

Jamie, not naive, just very educated on the subject. Do your homework and research the truth. The numbers killed in shelters are currently quoted at about 3 million which include the very sick, old, injured and vicious. Out of over 78 million dogs in the U.S. that is fairly low, BUT to get those numbers lower shelters management must be held accountable. The problem is NOT solely the public especially when some shelters import 100's of thousands of dogs from other countries. Or shelters import dogs from over populated areas of the U.S. that are the 'cute' dog and let the less cute in their shelter or neighboring shelter be killed. I feel sorry for shelter workers because they see the worse of the worse day after day. At some point they need to take a break and see that what they know is by far the exception.

Jamie Healy

2:32 pm on Thursday, May 31, 2012

In case you missed it earlier, I worked as a national program manager for an animal welfare organization, working very closely with shelters located across the US. I have seen firsthand the statistics and the freezers. I KNOW what's going into them and coming out, and don't kid yourself into thinking it's old, sick, or mentally deranged animals. It's NOT. Millions of our local animals die day in and day out. Putting that blame on the animal shelters rather than to the community who causes the problems and dumps and abuses the animals is absurd.

Transferring animals in and out of shelters is actually very normal and acceptable. For example, in California, their shelters are filled with little lap dogs like Chi's, while places in, for example, Texas don't have a single small dog in the shelter. Reorganizing the stock for lack of better wording, is a very good way to save lives by importing/exporting from one state, county, or city to another, based on what their desires are.

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