State GOP Celebrates Chick-fil-A
Palmetto State Republicans join protesters across the country.
It's the controversy that just won't die.
Since Chick-fil-A President and COO Dan Cathy endorsed the "biblical definition of the family unit" in an interview with the Baptist Press on July 16, the fast food giant has been at the center of controversy.
For the past two weeks social media feeds have been jammed with statements in support of or in opposition to Cathy. Not to mention polls and comment sections, including here at Patch. While many have used the opportunity to take a stand, many others are wondering how their food choices came to be connected to their views on marriage.
In any event, the Chick-fil-A fuss reached a crescendo today when millions of people who agreed with Cathy, flocked to the nearest location.
South Carolina was no different from the rest of the country — and leading Republicans took part in the support.
State GOP Executive Director Matt Moore took his office out for lunch. Sen. Lindsey Graham and Rep. Jeff Duncan (R-3) ordered in for their staffs.
For the record, Graham, noted on his Facebook page, "My usual order is the #1 combo with slaw and a Coke Zero. Can’t beat it."
While the controversy began as one about gay marriage from the left's perspective, it has now become one of 1st Amendment Freedom of Speech rights, according to conservatives. Does the controversy have another turn in it?
Ken
9:03 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
I find a really sad state of affairs that elected officials celebrate the promotion of bigoted ideals. Apparently they have forgotten what the constitution, (something that they have sworn to protect) is all about. They would rather put a religious belief ahead of what is right. This is what I have grown to expect in this "christian" state, the use of an antiquated religious belief to justify hate
Paul Scott
10:35 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
How could they have forgotten the constitution when we are guaranteed under the constitution to have freedom of speech. This man did nothing but answer a question asked of him about the sanctity of marriage and his opinion was the same as Obama's back about 6 months ago. He believes a Marriage is a union between a man and a woman as the Bible says. How, when other liberals make fun of Christians and their religion, no liberal press has anything to say about that issue. Just when it happens to be about gays and marriage of same sexes. It's your right not to eat at Chick=Fil-A if you feel slighted by this statement, but Mr. Cathey is entitled to his opinion. How the liberals have slighted the constitution is not allowing Mr. Cathey his ability to speak his position on gay marriage. Not one time has any one used the word hate from Chick-Fil-A, but you liberals want to put words into his mouth. Either way, Chick-Fil-A sales will go through the roof with all the crying and nashing of teeth from the like of Roseanne Barr. She is such a wonderful role model for you
liberals and I think she fits in with folks of your ilk. Thank God that piece of garbage won't be at any Chick-Fil-A to smell up their restaurants.
David
1:38 pm on Saturday, August 4, 2012
You have been so brain washed by the left that you haven't a clue about what is fair & balanced, only what your side wants, & then those & others of your ilk kick & scream when you don't get your way! Listen to what the constitution says & intends for EVERYONE & not just those on the left. What Mr. Cathy said was his right to say & he was correct in wanting to protect the institution of marriage as between 1 man & 1 woman. He made no derogatory remarks about anyone as liberals do when they disagree with someone. No religious belief is put above what is right as you contend. "Right" is your label for a bigoted & self-centered mentality about perverted causes! One's religious beiefs, especially from a Christian perspective, constitute what they are committed to that is decent & respectable. By the way, what would someone like you say to a Muslim whose scriptures recommend 'kill the infidel' & sharia law which some men in this country have used as a basis to kill their own dauthters. It's in the news if you look at a reliable source, which I doubt or you would have more of the facts rather than pseudo-news full of biased bigotry such as is found often in the lame stream media!
JoSCh
10:04 am on Sunday, August 5, 2012
How is it Paul Scott and David, that you took what Ken wrote and thought for a second it was about the Chick-Fil-A owners free speech? It's quite clearly about the GOP elected officials of this state celebrating the promotion of bigoted ideals.
It may surprise you that the constitution does more than protect your sect, your hate speech and your guns. It also says that no state shall deny ANY person equal protection of the law. Your marriage certificate doesn't come from a church.
David, your ability to cry about the poor victims of the Christian right being unfairly attacked and labeled by the vicious liberals while you basely attack the left and prove your own bigotry is almost unparalleled. I can't imagine how hard you work at being a hypocrite, avoiding the truth, and studying misinformation to regurgitate. Truly amazing.
Ben
8:31 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012
Dear Ken,
It is this very right that gives even you the right to speak, even ignorantly at that, but even so it gives you that right. Check out the Constitution, see who signed it, not many were gay, most were Christians, so was the purpose of starting this great country. Only lately whiners try to raise opposition such as yours to ruin the very freedom give you. You have the right, just do not ruin it for others, nor whine when you can't play. There are always rule, just learn to play!
Mark
9:29 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Ken, who made you the arbiter of what is "right"? These people are entitled to their own beliefs, despite your disagreeing. Read your comment again. You fit the true definition of "bigot" well: "a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially: one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance."
Today's show of support was about freedom of speech, not antipathy toward any group.
Ken
9:53 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Really? All of those fine "christians" were there for one reason only, to show support of that man because he disapproves of the same thing that they disapprove of, IOW, they are there to support bigotry, ignorance and intolerance.
What is right is allowing two consenting adults the right to marry the person that they love, denying them that right is nothing but outright bigotry because there is no logical or valid reason to do so. The reality is that no religious affiliation or ceremony are required for a marriage to be legal so the religious should have no say in who can and cannot legally marry.
Calling me a bigot is like calling the people who stood up against the racist bigots during the civil rights movement bigots. The christian reich in this nation have targeted a specific minority for oppression, denying them rights that everyone else enjoys. That is classic bigotry, no matter what the religious kooks think "god says".
If calling intolerant bigots what they are also makes me a bigot, then I will gladly and proudly embrace that title. As long as the religious reich fight against gay rights, I will voice my opinion of their ignorance.
stanley seigler
11:39 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
@Mark: '...Today's show of support was about freedom of speech, not antipathy toward any group.'
opine: freedom of speech is a distraction...is there really anyone who does not believe:
"chick and supporters have right (free speech) to express their homophobia views and protesters have right (free speech) to protest..."
there is NO free speech issue...free speech is a distraction the issue is: homophobia...specifically same sex marriage...and
just as interracial marriage is now legal and accepted...so same sex marriage will be legal and accepted...
homophobes: get over it. you are on the wrong side of history...just as were the segregationists of days gone by...
in the long run (big pic), your chick support, etc, is 'sound and fury signifying nothing' except society's baser (human?) nature.
JoSCh
9:17 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012
How is supporting a minority group of Americans exercising of their rights "bigotry" Mark? I see you know the definition, I'm just curious how it applies to your stance.
Alex Siegel
1:17 am on Monday, August 6, 2012
Really? You're calling him intolerant? Because he doesn't believe that we should be able to deny a group of people the right to marry?
Also, it's not an "opinion" that the First Amendment does not allow religious laws to be passed, nor is it an opinion that any law banning gay marriage is a religious law, it is a fact. If you could think of a single, credible, logical reason why gay marriage is not a religious issue, I'll shut up, but since there isn't one, I'll continue.
The GOP is claiming that they support Dan Cathy's remarks because they won't deny his freedom of speech, but in reality, it is because their constituents believe that they should be able to deny a group of people their right to marry. Their constituents, of course, are the same people whose parents and grandparents did not want interracial couples to be allowed to marry, and they are continuing their rich tradition of bigotry. The right is trying to distract the public from the issue of gay rights by using freedom of speech as a shield. Whenever somebody says anything the Republican party doesn't agree with, do they commend the person for exercising free speech? No, they denounce them just as the left has denounced Dan Cathy.
And sure, Cathy has the right to say that he doesn't support gay marriage, but we also have the right to say that he is a complete jerkoff for saying that, and we also have the right to boycott Chick-Fil-A, which I plan on doing indefinitely.
stanley seigler
9:34 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
'State GOP Celebrates Chick-fil-A'...what else, after a decade under GOP control and two GOP govs, do GOPs have to celebrate...'Gov. Sanford*s Argentinian adventure by way of the Appalachian Trail' maybe.
re: 'it has now become one of 1st Amendment Freedom of Speech rights'...
WHY, ie;
chick and supporters have right (free speech) to express their homophobia views and protesters have right (free speech) to protest...
why is there an issue...
JoSCh
9:14 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012
The reason the "right" has an issue is because the right to free speech is ok only if someone they agree with is exercising it, the right to freedom of religion only if the religion is theirs. In other words, hypocrisy.
The "left" has an issue with the owner of Chick-Fil-A giving substantial amounts of money to groups (tax exempt charities at that) that's sole purpose is suppressing rights of a minority group of Americans and then bragged about it on at least two occasions to some form of the media.
Please people on the "right", prove either of these statements wrong. Quoting the bible doesn't work because the bible like the koran and all other religious books are not law in the US.
JoSCh
2:34 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012
If I were gay and in the closet I also would have shown up yesterday to show everyone I wasn’t gay like Michelle Bachman's husband. With so many forebearers of beard wearing conservatives like Larry Craig, Mark Foley, Bob Allen, Glenn Murphy and Ted Haggard, I guess it's "traditional" now.
I wonder if Paul Babeu ate at a Chick-Fil-A yesterday? He certainly didn't go to The Pink Taco.
Wounded Warrior
2:16 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
Enjoyed the spicy chicken. Think we should have official statewide Chick-Fil-A day. Football season kicks off in 27 days. The opening games in ATL are sponsored by Chick-fil-a. Everyone thats so butt-hurt by a private company's opinion should go down and protest. Our constitution says its allowed. Just like this mans opinion and religious beliefs.
JoSCh
2:56 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
He has the same opinion as this guy.
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-05-31/news/31931439_1_kansas-pastor-senior-pastor-sermon
And these people,
http://news.yahoo.com/westboro-baptist-church-elder-spokesman-talks-gays-god-152200111.html
http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/03/politics/military-funerals-protests/index.html
http://www.examiner.com/article/westboro-baptist-church-shows-up-at-colorado-shooting-prayer-vigil
Good company.
JoSCh
2:57 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
Same religious beliefs too. Super.
JoSCh
3:07 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
The biggest external threat to American freedom is religious fundamentalism; and the biggest internal threat to American freedom … is also religious fundamentalism. One is Muslim, one is Christian; but they both seek to impose a literal interpretation of their holy book onto everyone else in society.
Religious fundamentalism is, by its very nature, opposed to individual liberty and freedom.
http://republicans4freedom.net/
Wounded Warrior
3:09 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
Are you another leftist extremist?
Bash a mans belief bc it doesn't coincide with your obvious ideals?
JoSCh
3:12 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
I assume you're talking to me but not sure what comment you're replying to. When replying, try using the reply button. Thanks.
SDR
3:54 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
Wounded: Dont sweat JoSCh. He is upset (all the time) because we havent broken into his house and proclaimed him king and omniscient leader. He will probably jump on this because I left something out.
Thanks for your service
JoSCh
4:51 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
Ya got me SDR, it's not equal rights and tolerance for all Americans I want, it's that I want you to... break into my house? I'm not sure you understand how coronation ceremonies work. KOT SDR.
stanley seigler
10:23 am on Saturday, August 4, 2012
5 things about Chick-fil-A...Even if you don't support same-sex marriage...
for rest of story read kaye fox's blog on Patch
David
1:19 pm on Saturday, August 4, 2012
It is disgusting what liberals & the lame stream yellow journalist media have done when they want to deny the CEO of Chick-fil-A his right to free speech especially since he did not denigrate those who want same sex available. Liberals are the most intolerent people on earth. They are vicious & discriminatory in their comments & then they blame anyone they disagree with as being intolerent! 'Fire' has to be fought with 'fire' because they have 'drawn a line in the sand'. If those of us who are victims of what they advocate just play it nice they will be encouraged, as all bullys are, to keep on as well as get worse. It is time to be strongly active in our actions & comments unless we want to abdicate our freedoms to raving lunatics!!
stanley seigler
6:36 pm on Saturday, August 4, 2012
@David:
what does david think ad hominem attacks on people (parties)accomplishes...does he believe this present facts that help people understand issues...
BTW the issue here is pro/con same sex marriage...not free speech.
as asked several times, does anyone believe chick does not have the right (free speech) to express his homophobic opinions re same sex marriage...does anyone believe the pro same-sexers have the right (free speech) to protest chick's views...'free speech' is just a homophobe distraction...
re: Liberals are the most intolerant people on earth. They are vicious & discriminatory...
more intolerant than 'true baptist" who deny black marriages in their church???
FYI
liberal definition: favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs
conservatives: seek to preserve things as they are... and seek a return to "the way things were...[in 2008 and 1929]...
GOP voodoo, trickle up, economic policies did not work in 1929/2008 and will not work in 2012...
ad hominem attacks cannot change the 1929/2008 disasters...nor the fact the issue is pro/con same sex marriage...NOT free speech.
JoSCh
9:51 am on Sunday, August 5, 2012
Speaking of raving lunatics. Seriously, nothing you said even makes sense.
Reasonable conservatives, you are allowing these crazy people to speak for you. Is that really what you want?
reg
12:24 am on Monday, August 6, 2012
No one's attempting to deny him the right to free speech. They are criticizing him for using his company's profits to fund organizations that want to take rights away from others. (They even gave money to a group that was seeking to legalize, in an African country, killing people because they're gay.) And they're not going to give their money to add to that company's profits.
Alex Siegel
2:12 am on Monday, August 6, 2012
Yeah, about that... intolerant is believing that an entire group of people should not be allowed basic human rights (i.e. the right to marry), not calling people intolerant for, well, being intolerant. Please, quit watching Fox News. It turns people into idiots. Or maybe it just attracts them, I'm not sure which.
JoSCh
8:27 am on Monday, August 6, 2012
"Please, quit watching Fox News. It turns people into idiots. Or maybe it just attracts them, I'm not sure which."
/golf clap
Jesse in SC
2:27 pm on Saturday, August 4, 2012
@ Ken(and others who share his opinion)... I wonder why I still get amazed at how you link subjects together that have really little in common. Do you realize how you leave thinking people scratching their heads? Let me tell you what I mean. You are stating that homosexual relationships are to be looked at in the same way as race relationships. I've also read another person comparing Homosexual "rights" to slavery. Okay. You guys brought it up. Let's talk about it. First of all, a man is born whatever color he is. Outside of just plain stupid people, most of us (you, me, most others) know that color is just that, Color. No difference underneath, and we are created equal. No reason to argue the point because only ignorant people would disagree and you cannot debate ignorance. THIS subject, however, IS debatable. I do not judge your religious views, whether you yourself are a Christian or not. However, I can tell you that almost EVERY Christian I know personally regards the bible as the Word Of God. If you do not, it helps us understand why you hold your position. But those of us who regard this book as Holy and inspired, measure ourselves by its instruction. We do not hate people who are different. Ask any Christian you know if they hate you. Ask them if they hate homosexual people. You'll work yourself silly trying to find one who would say that. Please do not assign that word to someone you don't know. Our beliefs did not originate from ourselves.
Jesse in SC
2:30 pm on Saturday, August 4, 2012
Our belief is rooted in what we believe our Creator stated and commanded. We do not march into gay peoples lives and do anything to hinder them from what they do in private. But since we DO believe what they practice is sinful, and can never be sanctioned or blessed, we teach our children otherwise. What Chik Fil a has done will not hurt a gay person.
JoSCh
10:26 am on Sunday, August 5, 2012
You're welcome to believe what your god said about homosexuality. I'm free to believe different.
You DO hinder gays from doing what they want in private, you support organizations that fight to keep them from exercising their right to marry.
You're welcome to teach your kids whatever you want. Some people believe Jesus lived in Utah. Some people believe that snake handling is what Jesus wanted. Mark 16:17-18.
Chick-Fil-A supports an organization, Exodus International, that in the past supported the Uganda law that made being gay illegal and punishable by death.
Jesse in SC
2:39 pm on Saturday, August 4, 2012
IN other words, I don't accept your premise or platform from which you launch your attack. We SHOULD have freed the negro slaves, and we SHOULD accept different races marrying. We always should have. BUT...Trying to say that homosexual behavior is just the same is a mistake. You might say, it's how they feel. What we feel doesn't make anything right or wrong. If I felt like having heterosexual sex with my friends wife, it wouldn't make it right. If Sandusky felt like having sexual contact with children, it didn't make that right either. The same applies to beastiality. These are all sexual practices that people engage in because, to THEM....it FEELS good. Yet ALL these sexual practices are forbidden in CLEAR terms by God through His Word the Bible. Again...if you don't believe in God or His Word, then I can see how you would disagree. But at least man...BE CONSISTENT. If you say you believe that simply because two consent, that it is right, then apply that everywhere. You have no standard if you reject the bible. You must have something to stand upon. WHo makes up the rules? What if your 16 year old daughter says she is in love with a 52 year old man? If they both consented, would you say it's alright?
stanley seigler
7:15 pm on Saturday, August 4, 2012
@Jesse:
apologies i have difficulty following your analogies...but the bottom line is intolance.
re: You are stating that homosexual relationships are to be looked at in the same way as race relationships...[jesse]
the comparison is race and homosexuality intolerance...has nothing to do with color or sexual preference into which one is born...has nothing to do with rights of homosexuals and slaves...
re: almost EVERY Christian I know personally regards the bible as the Word Of God.
so, almost every christian i know believes the bible teaches us the principle of 'love your neighbor' in parables, metaphors and allegory...which seems more likely than a literal interpretation...butbutt;
willing to change opine if one can explain how two of each kind fit into a 4-500 ft boat...or why there is room for only 144,000 in heaven...
doubt if there is any pro/con points/discussion that will change minds...so in the mean time (until judgement day): why not tolerance of our neighbors views/life style...why not love our neighbors as ourselves...
reg
12:51 am on Sunday, August 5, 2012
From Jesse: " Ask any Christian you know if they hate you. Ask them if they hate homosexual people. You'll work yourself silly trying to find one who would say that. " well, Jesse, you need to see this link of this same website to see exactly the comments you talk about - http://summerville.patch.com/articles/poll-does-chick-fil-a-deserve-boycott-for-marriage-stance
JoSCh
10:16 am on Sunday, August 5, 2012
The bible says that if a married womans husband dies and they don't have kids she should marry his brother. It's
It's not about sex, it's about rights. Using on of the many and variable Christian bibles as your source for law is you attempting to push your morality on someone else. The government is prohibited from doing that by the first amendment.
I have a standard, I reject the bible. The majority of the world population follows something other than Christianity.
A 16 year old isn't an adult and can't consent. If she is 18 then I really have no choice in the matter, but fwiw yes, I think it's alright.
Alex Siegel
4:33 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
It doesn't matter how you feel. It really doesn't, at least not from a legal standpoint. I'm not sure if you've heard of it, but there's this little thing that was written in the late 1700's called the United States Constitution, and its First Amendment states "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion...." Since your views on homosexual marriage are clearly motivated by religion, there is no legal basis for making your beliefs law.
Also, your comparisons are completely off base. Cheating on your spouse may be wrong, but it is not prohibited by law, so your comparison here does nothing to help you here. The other sexual practices that you mentioned are illegal, however, but the flaw with them is that legally, one of the parties in each case cannot be considered a consenting adult. That is why they are illegal, not because they are morally wrong, or because "these sexual practices are forbidden in CLEAR terms by God through His Word the Bible." The Bible should not, and legally cannot, be used as a justification for the passing of a law at either the state or the federal level.
Bill1776
10:04 pm on Saturday, August 4, 2012
Lindsey Graham is Obama’s front man in the Republican Party he gets Obama’s far left judge appointees confirmed.
Lindsey Graham saved Obama’s far left radical Judge Sotomayor and radical far left Elena Kagan. They would have been stopped in committee if it wasn’t for Lindsey Graham.
The rules of the U.S. Judiciary Committee Article IV are there must be one affirmative vote from the minority to stop debate and bring the subject to a vote.
They only received one affirmative vote and that vote came from Obama’s front man Lindsey Graham which brought them out of committee and to the floor of the senate for a vote by the full senate. Radical Judge Sotomayer and left wing radical Elen Kagan was then confirmed by the far left socialist democrat senate. The only vote from the republicans that Sotomayer received came from Obama’s front man Lindsey Graham.
reg
12:54 am on Sunday, August 5, 2012
I think you're not counting on the readers of thsi site being intelligent enough to verify your sources, Billy. You can blame it on Graham alone all you want, but it aint' true. You're following the opinion of some strange rightwing media that's telling you to say that.
JoSCh
10:07 am on Sunday, August 5, 2012
You're totally trumping the "normal" wingnuts. Step up your game fellas, there is a new king of the Reds.
stanley seigler
8:07 am on Monday, August 6, 2012
@reg: '... You're [bill] following the opinion of some strange right wing media that's telling you to say that'
oh, so you dont think it's just coincidental...unrelated, oft incorrect information (term used loosely), from right wing media and blogs is posted on PATCH as someone's original thought...