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Mitt Romney Still Repeating Lies

Mitt Romney is repeating his lie about welfare once against despite America calling him out on it.

The Mitt Romney campaign is continuing to assert that Obama has eliminated any requirement that welfare recipients work. His ad says that Obama has made it so that welfare recipients do not have to work or train for a job, but can simply lay at home and "collect a check." 


The Washington Post, NY Times, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, Politifact, etc. (everyone except Fox) has said this is false. Even Newt Gingrich told Anderson Cooper, "we have no proof" of that. Yet Mitt Romney and Fox continue to run with it. Why? Because it works.

In the minds of every displaced and agitated white working class man, it conjures up an image of every black person they are afraid of receiving something for nothing. That is where this campaign is right now.  They have to exploit the fears and ignorance of those who engage in the most unsupported conspiracy theories when faced with the reality of an electorate -- and an elected official -- who does not share their features, names, or traditions.        

They are relegated to stirring up the emotions of the most fearful part of their base because they have no good policy ideas. Their approach to mitigating the deficit would be to return us to the same laissez faire economics that got us into this mess in the first place, while at the same time making it so that the wealthiest Americans -- the only people not affected by the recession -- would pay less taxes than ever.

Perhaps one of the most important people calling Romney a liar on this welfare claim is Bill Clinton. He actually signed the welfare reform act into law in '96, which is what Romney is now saying has been "gutted" by President Obama. The truth is that Obama gave to Governors the discretion they asked for in implementing the work requirement for welfare recipients. Several of these governors were Republicans. BUT there is no provision allowing states to simply hand out welfare checks as an allowance for sitting at home. Most importantly, welfare recipients could have the option of going to school instead of having to take the first job available to someone in their position. Such flexibility actually increases the likelihood that welfare recipients can escape dependency on welfare, something that Republicans should be excited about. Indeed, Republicans do like the idea which is why some of them asked for it, and why Newt Gingrich cannot help but grin and giggle when it comes up. And again, it would be up to Governors not the President. This actually gives more power back to the states -- something else Republicans would be giddy about if it were not election season.

Below is a list of sources calling the Romney claim FALSE:

Joe Scarborough (Republican)

Huffington Post (on Romney repeating the false claim)

CNN Fact Check

Politifact

CBS

Politico

Washington Post

Bill Clinton

Chicago Tribune

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SDR August 29, 2012 at 10:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luo40WjBKWI Here is Romney's proof
Jonathan Edwards August 30, 2012 at 11:21 AM
@SDR Thanks for showing us your favorite music video. Still trying to figure out how that refutes the article though. Here is a link to the false points in Paul Ryan's speech last night: http://factcheck.org/2012/08/ryans-vp-spin/
Jeff Davis August 30, 2012 at 02:48 PM
Although having seen some of Mr. Edwards comments on previous subjects (specifically school choice), I am pretty aware that his politics and mine are probably polar opposite. I respect his freedom to express his viewpoint even though I find it to be a bit naive and a bit preoccupied with race as opposed to the issue of entitlements (i.e., his comment "every displaced and agitated white working class man"). Race has nothing to do with this or any of these other political / entitlement issues we face as a country, especially given the fact that despite prevailing stereotype, Whites, not Blacks, collect the greatest share of public aid dollars (but that is a much longer discussion). In any case, I will admit that BOTH political parties stretch the facts to mobilize or scare people to get out and vote for them (or against the other guy). Unfortunately that is the system we have devolved into with the 24/7 competing news feeds. Mr. Edwards himself is falling into this same trap in accusing "only" Mr. Romney of lying. I would hope Mr. Edwards would comment here and concede its a problem on BOTH sides. Although I am a strong supporter of Mr. Romney and I firmly believe he (and the team he will bring to bear) can set this country back on the right track ... I would say almost as important as Romney's team and leadership, this country needs a change. Unfortunately Mr. Obama's inexperience and inability to truly lead and unit Washington, D.C. will not change with a second term.
Gretchen August 30, 2012 at 03:51 PM
DO YOU FACT CHECK the LIAR IN CHIEF in the White House too ???
stanley seigler August 30, 2012 at 04:24 PM
re: DO YOU FACT CHECK the LIAR IN CHIEF in the White House too ??? speaking for myself, yes i do...any specific issue/statement in mind... opine: very few GOPers fact check either MITT or BO...they mostly practice ad hominem logic re BO...and blindly accept GOP sound bites re MITT.
Gretchen August 30, 2012 at 04:55 PM
I just checked FACT CHECK and they are not exactly a PILLAR OF TRUTH.... ie JANESVILLE GM PLANT ...The plant shut its doors for good in 2009. According to an Associated Press article in the local Rockford Register Star, the plant ceased operations of large SUVs – its main product -- on December 31, 2008 and was scheduled to completely shut down several months later. “About 50 workers will remain at the Janesville plant to complete an order of small- to medium-duty trucks for Isuzu Motors Ltd. They’re scheduled to finish by May or June, and then the plant will close down for good,” The Rockford Register Star reported December 31, 2008, citing GM spokesman Christopher Lee. BUT OBAMA said he was going to keep the PLANT open. I guess he forgot his magic wand ! :(
Gretchen August 30, 2012 at 04:57 PM
here is the whole article about the JANESVILLE PLANT http://cnsnews.com/news/article/janesville-gm-plant-closed-2009-after-obama-promised-save-it
Ambassador August 30, 2012 at 05:02 PM
It truly is so easy to tell when the current narcissist resident in the whitehouse is lying--his lips are moving.
stanley seigler August 30, 2012 at 05:26 PM
gretchen, re: here is the whole article about the JANESVILLE PLANT thanks for the facts...the official final closure was 2009...so rand is correct...OTOH the main closure and planned final was 2008...so rand's statement somewhat misleading... BO did not keep his promise to re-open the plant...this was not his specific decision but GM's... again thanks for helping me and hopefully others understand GOP/DEM political rhetoric (aka bs and spin)...progress not vitriol maybe...
Jonathan Edwards August 30, 2012 at 05:37 PM
Gretchen, I'm afraid your article parsing out the details of the plant's winding down still doesn't attribute it's failure to policies of the president.
Mark Winter August 30, 2012 at 06:48 PM
Debt added by the previous 43 U.S. Presidents combined = 6.3 trillion dollars. Debt added by President Obama in one term = 6.5 trillion dollars and growing. How's that for failed policies? I know, it's Bush's fault, right?
JoSCh August 30, 2012 at 07:29 PM
That $6.5T is exaggerated and projected. What policies has president Obama changed that led to this? And did he not inherit 2 unfunded wars and a recession?
JoSCh August 30, 2012 at 07:43 PM
Where did you read that only Romney lies? Looks like you fell into the trap of when you read something you disagree with you start making stuff up. How very Republican of you.
JoSCh August 30, 2012 at 07:53 PM
In Gretchen and Paul Ryan's world the word "believe" apparently means promise. "I believe that if our government is there to support you ... this plant will be here for another hundred years." What you're implying is that the president told them that he would help them without any intention of helping them. That clearly wasn't the case. He promoting bailing GM out and increasing renewable energy manufacturing in the US. That a small number of plants (one, maybe more?) had to close is regrettable, but certainly not his intent. It's pretty pathetic that Ryan has to resort to this clearly disingenuous argument, especially when his running mate is widely quoted as being against the GM bailout. Their hypocrisy knows no bounds.
stanley seigler August 30, 2012 at 07:56 PM
more adhoms too cute by 1/2 comments which add NOTHING to the discussion...why do you persist...
stanley seigler August 30, 2012 at 08:03 PM
as mentioned gretchen's article adds to the understanding of DEM/GOP spins...it's not about right/wrong...it's boot understanding the issues and party (DEM/GOP) spins/positions...
stanley seigler August 30, 2012 at 08:13 PM
@Mark Winter@Mark Winter the reasons for the investment is ignored...which makes for party sound bites...but does little, if anything, to solve the current problems... investment is needed to get USA out of the ditch dug by failed GOP policies... cutting investment (spending) now would be distractions. the reasons for the investment is ignored...which makes for party sound bites...but does little, if anything, to solve the current problems... investment is needed to get USA out of the ditch dug by failed GOP policies...
Jonathan Edwards August 31, 2012 at 11:39 AM
Jeff: I don't think I said Romney is the only politician who lies. That being said, I absolutely agree that this is going to be a dirtier election than most. In my opinion, that is the result of the Citizens United decision, allowing unlimited $$$ from corporations to muddy the Democratic process. I'm not sure which lies from the Obama campaign you're talking about. I know that conservatives were very upset about the ad implying that Mitt Romney was responsible for a woman's death. However, that ad was not produced by the Obama campaign. But the welfare ad was endorsed directly by Mitt Romney -- it's even on their campaign website. Your observation about race and so called "entitlements" is accurate and illustrative of the irony existing among neo-conservatives. Whites do receive more welfare. Yet the numbers show that the states most likely to vote for an anti-entitlement platform are the ones consisting of the most whites on welfare. This, in my opinion, illustrates the role that race plays in our politics still today. When Obamacare was upheld, I talked to a white woman who was furious. She suggested that soon we would be giving free healthcare to dogs, and expressed agitation at the prospect of her taxes paying for someone else's healthcare. This same woman I found out receives WIC assistance and Medicaid. It seems rather illogical that she would refer to herself as a "dog." It is more probable that she had a distinct class of people in mind.
V. Scheurich September 09, 2012 at 11:34 PM
When is South Carolina going to give the hooligan Harpootlian the boot? http://freebeacon.com/harpootlian-the-hooligan/
Gretchen September 10, 2012 at 01:14 PM
For sure... that man is a bundle of vitriol -- everytime he is on TV my friends from up north call and ask, "What kind of fool is he?" -- and they are DEMOCRATS ! He is a real embarrassment.
stanley seigler September 10, 2012 at 02:55 PM
@Gretchen this bleeding heart liberal agrees harpo is an idiot... opine: he is the DEM exception...vitriol is the rule in BO-hater circles...and is counterproductive...ie, perhaps the BO-haters are helping BO among swing voters...see latest polls.
JoSCh September 10, 2012 at 03:39 PM
Hateful rhetoric is a hallmark of South Carolina. I submit this, and frankly most threads that mention the president as evidence.

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